Scott Hanselman, VP of Developer Community at Microsoft, joins the pod to offer his unique perspective on the evolution of technology, share what he heard from developers at Microsoft Build 2025, and discuss the critical role of human agency in a world of AI agents. Scott and Susan explore some of the challenges and opportunities presented by AI-powered automation, emphasizing the importance of AI guided by human decision-making, creativity, and ethical judgement. They contemplate what happens when something breaks and reflect on why context and understanding the deep stack are key to being able to fix it. Watch this episode on YouTube for the full experience as Scott brings in artifacts for some “show and tell” moments.
Air Date: June 24, 2025
Chapters:
00:00 – 03:49 Introduction
03:50 – 07:36 Scott’s background and early tech days
07:37 – 11:45 Microsoft Build 2025 and how developers are feeling
11:46 – 15:37 AI and human agency
15:38 – 19:03 Curiosity and innovation
19:04 – 23:36 Empathy and practical solutions
23:37 – 29:43 Vibe coding and craftsmanship
29:44 – 35:07 Advice for leaders
35:08 – 37:03 Conclusion and key takeaways
Resources:
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A Leader’s Guide to Building High-Impact Generative AI Apps: https://msft.it/6054Sv99i
Implementing an AI Center of Excellence: https://msft.it/6055Sv99c
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Show notes:
Guest: Scott Hanselman, Vice President at Microsoft, Developer Community
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Host: Susan Etlinger on LinkedIn: https://msft.it/6059Sv99W
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